Many people are tuning into the OWS movement, and more people are beginning to sympathize with the protesters. I wanna make it abundantly clear, that what they want is completely INSANE!
"The entire crowd is focused on illogical and generally insane ideas. Redistribution of wealth is a horrible idea, and it has failed in every attempt. That is the centerpiece of the Wall Street protests. While I do believe that Wall Street has much to do with what happened to our financial system, our government is equally responsible...if not more. And now we are told by our government, that taking money from the rich and spending money we don't have will suddenly fix everything without hardships or pain.
What the OWS movement wants isn't rooted in logic. It's rooted in insanity and with some of the demands...greed.
Yes there are bad apples in all groups, but when the whole group wants radical and frankly crazy solutions, and won't listen to all the other ideas...I will always mark that kind of movement as bad. Even the Tea Party. I am a member, proud of it too, but the local Tea Party in my county wants out of California. We want to revive a movement that died in WWII. Look up the State of Jefferson.
And our reasons are sound: Sacramento has abandoned us, using us only for votes and taxes. They do not listen to us, they do not even consider us for anything important. Remote or not, this area is full of people sick and tired of being treated like second-class citizens. I am by no means a native, but I support this movement because it is rooted in logic and logic says to cast away the governance over you if it does nothing but hinder you.
Logic is the source of reason, and reason is the source in which a wise people draw their strength.
Here are some of the demands...seriously think about the reality of these:
1) Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr. ($20 an hour!? WHAT THE FLYING FUCK!? That's completely crazy! And Tariffs, while I agree we need to have some measure of import fee, we cannot allow our selves to end Free Trade. FREE is the word our country is rooted in. These people want to do away with economic freedom completely. That is part of why we rebelled from England in the first place!)
2)Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors. (This is already going to undo our nation. The healthcare law, like Medicare and Social Security is already hemorrhaging money. And more importantly these people want to destroy 1/6th of our GDP in a pen stroke. And since the Supreme Court ruled that companies are protected by the 1st Amendment...this is utterly unconstitutional.)
3) Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment. (This one made me laugh, it means that working or not, you get a minimum wage, or $20/hr for life if you go with demand 1)
4) Free college education (Nothing is free...including freedom. the idiots here in California who rioted in Davis when the state raised the fee for units from get this...$22 to $27 made me feel no sympathy for them. I am from Pennsylvania originally...and it costs almost $250 a unit at HACC [Harrisburg Area Community College], and none of it subsidized by the state.)
5) Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand. (While I agree we need to be rid of our addiction to foreign oil, we simply cant suddenly switch to alternative energy. Infrastructure isn't in place...and that is just one reason why that demand is almost impossible)
6) One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now. (This I can somewhat agree with. Our infrastructure is failing and decaying rapidly. And politicians refuse to do anything, preferring pork projects instead. I also believe that money should be used to hire private contractors with serious incentives or penalties for quality of work.)
7) One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants. (If you live where I live this is a joke. Our forests are dying because we aren't harvesting them, not the other way around. Plus, we can't meet Demand 5 unless we have nuclear power. It is clean, and safe...the Kobe Tsunami proved how hard it is to crack a nuclear plant.)
8) Racial and gender equal rights amendment. (Already exists...see 14th, 15th, and 19th Amendments, as well as both the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and 1967.)
9) Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live. (This is also insanity. If they want to ensure Demand 1, this demand cannot exist. Second, this would immediately open the floodgate on the violence in Mexico, and more people would die.)
10) Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system. (And we want to make our election system MORE complex, time consuming and easily cheated?)
11) Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period. (ABSOLUTE INSANITY, the entire world would collapse into utter chaos and anarchy. This is utter madness by people who clearly understand nothing about economics or the basic principles of barter trade.)
12) Outlaw all credit reporting agencies. (Also insane, credit...contrary to some beliefs, is the economic form of reputation. Your credit tells other traders and lenders, businesses, customers, etc...how good you are at what you do.)
13) Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union. (Removal of the secret ballot is a direct persecution of a person's privacy to vote. Be it in an election or union representation. This is basically a corruption of the vote. All that would need to be done is a paper pass around the office with everyone signing it. The manager find a name missing, and peer pressure kicks in. It's downright EVIL to pressure someone into something they may not want part of. Or better yet, think about the damage to their reputation by their coworkers knowing they didn't want to unionize. There is a reason why the mob is in with unions...the unions play the same underhanded game the mob plays: mess with us and more than your reputation will be damaged.)
So I ask now: did I pick out the 'bad apples', or is most of this movement absolute insanity? Logic tells us that almost all of these demands are audacious and mad. They are demands from people who have no regard for the Constitution, this nations laws, or clear and reasoned common sense. That or they are completely stupid and/or ignorant to reality.
None of these demands can be (or in the case of a few: should be) ever enacted or proposed.
I don't like posting massive chunks, but you asked me a solid question. I hope I answered it satisfactorily. I can...but try. "
From a recent discussion with persons who remain anonymous.